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  strives to provide its patrons with Click to see bigger pic reliable stream, weather and fishing conditions during the fall, winter and spring. We are happy to provide this information for anglers so that they can make informed decisions about fishing trips. Please be aware, however, that weather, fishing conditions and water flows can change in a moment's notice. Hydro power generation can and does alter water flows. Not all fishermen's expectations and skills are equal and if you wait for "perfect" conditions, you'll likely miss some good opportunities. No guarantee of success, natural conditions or safety is ever implied. Here's what we know right now...

Last updated: Apr 17, 2014

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Lodging dates are available for the 2014 trib season. There's lots of good fishing for steelhead and brown trout ahead! Stay at the Licorice Lodge in the heart of the fishing action! Fall 2014 reservations now being taken.

The Oak Orchard Pen Rearing Association received approx 30,000 steelhead placed in net pens and directly into the OOrchard Apr 15, 2014. Approx 115,000 King salmon where also placed in the net pens for hopeful imprinting on the OOrchard. These numbers represent just some of the total number of salmonids stocked here in Orleans County annually. Many thanks to Bob Songin and other local stakeholders for their efforts of securing, feeding and monitoring the fish. More tributary anglers are invited in 2014 to help with feeding the fish and cleaning the pens. Contact us for how and where to help out.

The Sportsmen Archer's Club Fly Fishing Only Catch and Release Contest will be held Oct 15 - 17, 2014. Everyone is sure to enjoy the great hospitality and comradorie of the Archer's Club and experience some real good fishing. Their cooperation with out of the area fishermen is truly above board and greatly appreciated by all. Please contact us or see the Club for registration.

Tributary Fly Fishing Class held Sat, March 22, 2014. Join our great instructors NYSLOG Paul Jacob from Reel Action Fly Fishing and Capt. Jason Franz from Trout 'n' About and RonB aka the Licorice Man in 2014. An informative and fun filled day where we can help shorten the learning curve for you. Lunch is provided. Call or email for more info and pre-registration!

Congratulations to Point Breeze/Oak Orchard being named #1 Ultimate 2013 Fishing Town in the US by the World Fishing Network (WFN). First place means a $25,000 grant for community/area fishing improvements.

NR fishing licenses now reduced to $10 one day, $28 seven day and $50 season. The license period is one year from date of purchase for season licenses. Season licenses purchased previously are good till the end of Sept 2014. We are set up with the new NYS license system and appreciate the opportunity to provide your fishing license. Help us defray new computer costs since NYS does not provide equipment any longer to sell their fishing licenses!

Anglers fishing at the Waterport dam are reminded to follow all site rules and warnings, to not go beyond or wade past restricted areas and to obey all instructions from site or security personnel. Those few who might choose to not obey site rules could jeopordize the good and respectful actions of most anglers who enjoy access for fishing provided by Brookfield Renewable Power on their privately held lands. For anglers accessing Brookfield PFD required zones, PFDs can be purchased at Oak Orchard Canoe 585 682 4849 located just a couple miles away from the Waterport dam. We will be offering PFDs shortly.

WINTER SALE! Thanks to cold weather hanging in thru Jan and Feb, we would like to pass on some great savings so you can have some sweet gear for spring steelhead. You can take the following discounts on rods or reels or combos or jacs or packs or waders. Watch for Big Tackle Sale page update or just contact us for what's available.
reg price $100 - 200 take 5% off
reg price $201 - 300 take 10% off
reg price $301 - 400 take 15% off
reg price $401
+ you take 20% off

Apr 17...
Thanks to a couple of cold days and nights all the trib flows are dropping back and clearing. Flows in the OORchard are high and stained with about 1 foot+ of viz and slowly diminshing overflow water. Turbine flows will likely stay up at least thru the weekend. The other area smaller tribs have med - slightly high flows and stained water color with 1 - 2 feet of viz. Trib flows to the west are probably dirtier then trib flows to the east. With dropping and clearing flows there should be some better drifting chances on some fresh fish along with the action for fish on gravel that's already underway. With water temps staying somewhat cool in the 40's or low 50's F drop back fish should linger in the waterways. See previous report for more info.

Apr 16...
Flows in the OOrchard are high with about a foot of viz and consist of lots of turbine water and some overflow water. The other area smaller tribs have slightly high and dirty water color of a foot of viz or less. Rain showers earlier this week have for now stalled the trib flows from falling back and clearing some. The most recent return to cold temps yesterday and today with two cold nights should once again bring on retreating and clearing flows in the tribs with also slowly diminishing overflow water in the OOrchard. Water temps should fall back some and keep from spiking too hot anytime soon according to the forecast ahead. The cool down is actually timely to help keep water temps down and keep fish in the tribs while allowing some springtime migrations of more steelhead or a few Lake run browns. Fishing pressure is generally light,anglers are well spread out thru the waterways here on the WNY Niagara Frontier or else likely staying home chasing inland trout. I for one, though, with good opportunities for some last lick trib steelhead action now, wouldn't have much worry about missing early inland trout action. On the OOrchard guys are into a mix of spawning and fresh steelhead, most of the action is on gravel or in deeper holding water near gravel. Lake run browns are also being hooked up and they can be encountered mainly in downstream reaches and all the way to the Lake and rivermouth and shoreline. Smaller area tribs have scattered numbers of spawning and fresh steelhead and those same or better chances for fresh run browns. Suckers are evidenced in all the tribs.

Apr 15...
There were warm temps over the past two days and some rain yesterday and this morning that has changed over to cold and snow showers. Forecast is for unseasonable cold temps today and tomorrow. Flows falling back and clearing will be stalled some now thanks to the most recent precip, but water temps should also retreat some holding more fish in the tribs. Look for water temps in the 40's F in some of the smaller waterways and possibly falling back below 50 F in the OOrchard. Flows in the OOrchard are high with about 1 foot + of viz. Overflow levels could be back on the rise slightly and water color could get a little more dirtier. The other area smaller tribs have med - slightly high flows with stained water color between 1 - 2 feet of viz. There's a mix of fresh and spawning and jack steelhead and suckers and even a smallmouth bass or two reported thru the waterways. Fish may be becoming less reliable at the dam on the OOrchard as they drop back looking for spawning areas. Some of the smaller waterways report fresh Lake run browns and some drop back fish. Fishing pressure is real light so anglers should find some unharried spawners and a mix of fresh and drop back fish in the holes or runs. Rivermouth and shoreline casting and small boat trolling is good when wind and waves allow for good water color.
Don't forget to check out our expanded Winter Sale running thru Apr only(details above), call or check in for product availability. A good selection of float rods still available.

Apr 13...
Flows continue to retreat and warm-up after unseasonable warm temps yesterday and today. Flows in the OOrchard are high with diminished overflow water and still lots of turbine water. Viz is about one foot+ and clearing slowly. Water temps have moved into the low 50's F for now, so look for a mix of some fresh and spawning steelhead with suckers becoming more numerous. Fishing presure is light, yet there are still good chances at some last licks steelhead ahead especially with a forecasted cool down thru the mid part of this week that should keep water temps from getting too much warmer anytime soon. The other area smaller waterways have med flows and slightly stained water color. With a little leg work anglers can find some spawning steelhead that are pretty well spread out and some lake run and drop back brown trout in the lower reaches. Forecasted windy and warm conditions today with the chance for rain showers changing over to cold and chance of snow showers thru tomorrow. Small boat trollers and land lubber casters report good numbers of small browns and cohos hooked up with the occassional bigger brown or bonus salmonid thrown in.
Don't forget to check out our expanded Winter Sale running thru Apr only(details above), call or check in for product availability. A good selection of float rods still available.

weekend Apr 12...
A seasonably warm weekend with retreating water flows in all the tribs. Flows in the OOrchard are high and dirty with about a foot of viz. Full bore turbine water but overflow levels have begun to receed. Virtually undisturbed steelhead should be thru-out the waterway with fish still prersent at the dam. Anglers right thru the high flows have scratched out hook-ups at the dam and now there should be better drifting chances downstream on a mix of fresh and spawning fish. Water temps should be moving thru the 40's F and some suckers are present. The other area smaller tribs have med - slightly high flows with stained water color. Look for fish to be spread in the upstream reaches of those smaller tribs and some springtime lake run browns present downstream. Warm water swinging presentations can be effective now. Anglers are out on the Lake too, this weekend offering the first serious effort at small boat trolling or casting, both of which has been productive where the semi-stained and warmest water can be found.
Don't forget to check out our expanded Winter Sale running thru Apr only(details above), call or check in for product availability. A good selection of float rods still available.

Apr 11...
Flows in the OOrchard are high, blown and dirty with a foot or less of viz. There was some rain showers last night that looks to have stalled the retreat of overflow water in the OORchard. The other area smaller tribs have high flows and stained water color with about a foot of viz. Smallest tribs have med - slightly high flows where a few guys are finding action on some spawning steelhead. Flows in the OOrchard are likely to stay up and retreat with clearing water color as overflow waters receed. The other area smaller tribs will retreat quicker without anymore significant precip. Fishing pressure is generally light with a few more guys out likely now on the retreating flows this weekend. Fresh steelhead should be well distributed thru all the tribs on the backside of these most recent higher flows with some spawning going on. Trib water temps are still cool, moving thru the 40's F so action should be hanging on, especially with cool weather forecasted to return thru next week.

Apr 10...
OOrchard flows are high, blown and dirty with less then a foot of viz. Lots of turbine water with slowly diminishing overflow water. As overflow levels receed and there is just turbine water, then flows could be labeled as just high, but not blown. A handful of anglers are on the waterway and have even managed a few hook-ups, mainly in the turbine channel. The other area smaller tribs have high flows with stained water color of about one foot of viz. Those waterways are coming into steelhead shape now and thru the end part of the week. Smallest tribs have med and slightly stained flows which are in good driftable shape right now with a few anglers banging around there. Temps are forecasted warm in the 50's F now and thru the weekend which will be raising trib water temps thru the 40's F and moving fish to gravel to spawn. There is the chance for precip tonight. Any significant precip will raise trib flows back up and dirty.

Apr 09...
Thanks to rain thru the begin part of this week, all the trib flows are high, blown and dirty. OOrchard flows consist of lots of turbine and overflow water with less then a foot of viz. Without anymore significant precip overflow levels should begin to retreat slowly by tomorrow with clearing water color lagging behind some. The other area smaller tribs are on the retreat now and without anymore significant precip should offer some reasonable drifting chances by the end of this week. Smallest tribs are retreating quickest right now. Steelhead will be well distributed thru all the waterways now and on the backside of these most recent higher flows. There was a little spawning activity underway in the OOrchard just prior to this latest high water and some will no doubt be taking place in the high and off color flows. Over-the-all, though, weather and water temps so far remain cool, so look for action to hang on thru Apr. The ice on Lake Alice has just gone away and OOrchard water temps are likly moving into the high 30's or approaching 40 F. Rivermouth and shoreline casting chances for primarily brown trout are good now and thru the spring when trib outfall and wind and waves provide good water color.
Don't forget to check out our expanded Winter Sale (details above), call or check in for product availability.

Remember you have to get out and fish. Come experience great fishing as it takes place instead of solely relying and waiting on internet reports. Anglers who find the best fishing often anticipate when the right conditions will come together. Internet bragging seems a lot less prevelant then it was a few years ago, and our reports tend to be even keeled - not reporting fish numbers great enough that they would be jumping in your waders - even if they were! Good water flows will be the biggest factor for trout and salmon migrations in the Oak Orchard River and in the area smaller tribs and pushing them upstream. Weather is the biggest factor for angler migrations and bringing more fishermen out and about. There have been some exceptional fish caught this trib season, just check out the pics below and in the archives. Come on out and get in on some trophy action this fall, winter and spring and add to the photo collection!

What does the Oak Orchard River, Lake Ontario and WNY offer? The chance to fish from your own two feet for trout and salmon you measure in pounds, not inches, for 7 - 9 months depending upon weather and water conditions. Recent economic conditions may make it more difficult for a fishing trip, but a trip here to the Oak Orchard River and WNY to fish for World Class trout and salmon is still easily the best bargain in trophy fishing. The working man's big trout and salmon trip is still here, and it's not even a contest compared to the other exotic, far off angling destinations. We believe our web reports are the straightest poop by far about Oak Orchard and most WNY conditions. We are living and experiencing all the fishing action directly or thru trusted reports of other die hard anglers as it happens. So how do you know if trophy trout and salmon will be catchable upon your travels to the Oak Orchard and WNY area? All the best web info, bulletin boards, angler skill and top notch equipment cannot replace getting out there and actually fishing! The nuances of fish migrations is an inexact science and we cannot predict the future. Fish as soon as reasonable conditions allow instead of waiting for supposed better conditions that may or may not materialize. Be one of the lucky few that experiences good fishing as it takes place instead of hearing that famous quote, "you should have been here yesterday!"

Tight lines and smooth drags!
Licorice Man


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Latest Catch Photos

There is a man behind the net, nice fish too! OOrchard high flows gives up more hard fighting silver last week Mar 2014.
The Licorice Man finds high water, hard fighting chrome glory in the OOrchard River 3rd week Mar 2014!
High and slightly stained flows in late winter mean fresh steelhead migrations in the OOrchard River end Feb 2014! Cold - what cold?!
No since hibernating when there's big chrome steelhead to be caught on the backside of high flows in the OOrchard River end of Feb 2014!



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