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  strives to provide its patrons with Click to see bigger pic reliable stream, weather and fishing conditions during the fall, winter and spring. We are happy to provide this information for anglers so that they can make informed decisions about fishing trips. Please be aware, however, that weather, fishing conditions and water flows can change in a moment's notice. Hydro power generation can and does alter water flows. Not all fishermen's expectations and skills are equal and if you wait for "perfect" conditions, you'll likely miss some good opportunities. No guarantee of success, natural conditions or safety is ever implied. Here's what we know right now...

Last updated: weekend Oct 03, 2015

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Lodging dates are available for 2015/2016 trib season. There's lots of good fishing for steelhead and brown trout ahead! Stay at the Licorice Lodge at the shop in the heart of the fishing action! New lodging available at the our well appointed Garage Lodge located just 5 miles east on Route 18, convienent to Sandy Creek. Reservations now accepted for 2015. See below for dates still open.

Licorice Lodge... Oct 3, 4 - 1 room. Oct 5 - 2 rooms. Oct 11 - 1 room. Oct 12, 13 - 2 rooms. Oct 14 - whole lodge. Oct 15 - 2 rooms.

Garage Lodge... Oct 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. Oct 11, 12, 13, 14, 15.

Licorice Lodge... Nov 6 - 2 rooms. Nov 8 - 2 rooms. Nov 9, 10 - whole lodge (great dates open due to cancellation). Nov 15, 16, 17 - 2 rooms. Nov 18, 19 - 1 room. Nov 23 forward - whole lodge.

Garage Lodge... Nov 9, 10, 11. Nov 14, 15, 19. Nov 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30.

Licorice Lodge... Dec open for whole lodge.

The Oak Orchard Pen Rearing Association received approx 10,000 steelhead placed in net pens in the OOrchard Apr 2015. Approx 106,000 King salmon where placed in the net pens for hopeful imprinting on the OOrchard. These numbers represent just some of the total number of salmonids stocked here in Orleans County annually. Many thanks to local stakeholders for their efforts of securing, feeding and monitoring the fish. More tributary anglers are invited to help with feeding the fish and cleaning the pens. Contact us for how and where to help out in 2016. Be sure you contact NYSDEC for comments on the cormorant situation and potential impacts on young recent stocked salmonids.

The Sportsmen Archer's Club Fly Fishing Only Catch and Release Contest will be held Oct 21, 22, 23 - 2015. Everyone is sure to enjoy the great hospitality and comradorie of the Archer's Club and experience some real good fishing. Their cooperation with out of the area fishermen has been truly above board and greatly appreciated by all. Please contact us or see the Club for registration. Fall time parking and breakfast and lunch will be available as usual for a donation from Oct 3 thru Nov 11, 2015. Winter and spring (2015/2016) site parking passes will not be offered. Anglers may still be able to park at the top of the Archer's driveway and walk in and fish or of course use the access from downstream at the Park Ave Fishing Trail and walk in upstream and fish or from the NYSDEC Waterport Dam and walk in downstream and fish. All non club members are reminded to act as courteous and responsible guests on the private lands of the Archer's Club so that we may all enjoy the fishing access there now and in the future.

Tributary Fly Fishing Class was held on Sat, Apr 11, 2015. Our great instructors NYSLOG Capt. Jason Franz from Trout 'n' About and RonB aka the Licorice Man gave the intro course and streamside demos. An informative and fun filled day where we help shorten the learning curve for you. Lunch was provided. Call or email for more info and pre-registration in 2016!

weekend Oct 03...
The cool weather with strong NE winds is forecast thru the weekend, with the chance for rain or showers here on the Niagara Frontier Sat. There's no significant rain impact expected from the hurricane. Cool temps are def helping cool trib temps down but it's unclear the impact of somewhat unprecedented days of strong NE Lake winds are doing for onshore salmon migrations. Salmon numbers are surely building now at the dam on the OOrchard with just a few fish stopped or staged in the fast water gravel areas just downstream. Each day forward there will be more and more fish interested in fast water gravel spawning spots. Downstream frog water areas are reported to have some salmon crashing around and a few anglers have intercepted the fish we reported marching up the smaller tribs from previous precip. River mouth action will be limited to between the pier heads or estuary or lower river waters with the Lake too blown up and dirty from the winds. OOrchard flows are typical 24/7 Erie Canal feed at mod and clear with the smaller area waterways dropping back to low from the bump up of a few days ago.

Oct 02...
The cool weather with challenging NE winds continues. Winds are forecast thru the weekend with just rain showers, no serious accummulations expected from the hurricane. Small boat trollers and casters are prob not going to be able to make it out in the Lake, but will be able to work the lower and mid river deep water areas. It is still a hunt for any concentrions of fish, many are likely still out in the Lake and may be offshore out of the cold wind blown inshore waters. Same reports so far of spotty numbers of fish in the OOrchard fast water areas, save for the concentration of fish that boogies right to the dam. As we suspected there have been salmon marching quickly upstream in the small tribs following the rains of a few days ago.

Oct 01...
Previous rain caused a bump up in trib flows with most everything retreating quickly for now. There was not much change in OOrchard flows. The weekend forecast is still up in the air with the potential for more precip. Heaviest rains from the hurricane may not reach this far inland to WNY. Temps for now remain cool with water temps no doubt cooling as well. Most reports still say fish at the dam with not many yet on downstream fast water gravel spots. Look for salmon massing tho in the last of the slow water areas in the OOrchard. With the previous higher water, no doubt there are some salmon upstream in the smaller tribs. Just lately River mouth action has been tougher with strong NNE winds. Anglers not afraid to fish the turbid Lake water or work the river channel are still getting hook-ups. Salmon are spread well out in the lower River and still out in the Lake, so far still following what seems to be a new MO of not ganging up and becoming obvious in any given spot for example like at the Bridges area. Gotta look for 'em harder now!

Sep 30...
There was some precip over the past couple days and a pretty good soaking rain thru last night. Look for a rise in flows in all the area tribs, more noticable for sure in the smaller waterways then the OOrchard where any rise in flows may be less. Water color should get somewhat stained at least from previous summer time low and clear. Temps have cooled down nicely too so look for more inshore salmon movements in the Lake and now likely a push upstream from lower and mid river spots on the OOrchard to the upper river. Salmon may still boogey quickly thru fast water areas headed toward the dam, but with water temps dropping some fish may look to stage now around gravel spots. Fishing pressure has been lite thru this week so far, no doubt will pick up some toward the weekend. Salmon action has been best at the River mouth and lower river areas and that should continue, but now with any rise in flows coupled with the cool down and forecasted NE lake winds more fish should be pushing upstream to fast water areas. Look for a few steelhead and brown trout in the mix too as they ride those NE lake winds in. Hopefully we can keep the trend of cool and wet weather moving forward thru the fall to help keep trib flows up and spread fish out and fishing opportunities upstream.

Sep 28...
The past weekend angling pressure perked up some with eager fishermen jumping the gun a little for upstream action that found just a few fish near the dam on the OOrchard. There were not many fish staged or holding in any of the fast water areas, but there were reports of some fish in the last of the slow water froggy areas. River mouth action has been pretty good by river mouth standards, with persistent casters getting more and consistent hook-ups. The weather cooling down this week with some gloom and overcast and rain showers today and tomorrow should only make the salmon action better. Fish numbers observed so far and hook-ups and general action look better at this time now compared to same time last year when the "run" was challenging, so we are looking forward to good upstream numbers of fish. Casters have already encountered a few big browns so that likewise bodes well for later Oct and Nov and Dec trout action. Last night there were salmon seen crashing thru the lower river on an obvious push upstream maybe spurred by this latest cool down, so those fish will be somewhere mid river or maybe reaching the last frog water/begin fast water areas where drifters can get on them. Still - the last couple years may reveal a shift in salmon staging habits with less time spent in the lower river or say around the Bridges area, but just moving thru there quicker and heading to gravel after having left the big Lake a little later on the calender. Other area smaller trib estuary action was reported to be real good too at the o'dark thirty early and late day times. We are now open everyday for our fall, winter and spring trib operations.

Sep 25...
For the end part of this past week the weather has been warm and clear and dry and bluebird clear. Forecast thru the weekend is similar. Each day with calm winds brings just lite or med NE lakebreezes. Compare that to hoped for better salmon migration weather of cool and wet and gloomy with NW winds. Never the less the OOrchard River mouth action is pretty good by river mouth standards where land lubber pier casters early and late and at night are scoring hook-ups on fish staging around in that cool NE wind blown water. Small boat trollers and casters likewise are into some fish. We haven't noticed obvious numbers of fish staged up or crashing around in the lower river, but what's upstream in say the last part of the slow water is somewhat unknown. Reports are that there are a small amount of fish all the way to the dam on their typical early season kamikazee mission. Early season hook-ups look good relative to last years challenging salmon run and the OOrchard seems to be as good or better then any other big Lake trib spot so far. Stay tuned and come fishing - it's just getting started. See the early season salmon catch pics below.

4th week Sep 2015...
There's been some on and off OORchard River mouth action thru the past week. The warmer and drier weather seemed to slow down the number of fish seen crashing around the lower river to say about the Bridges area, but guys report a small amount of fish all the way to the dam and a few fish seen crashing around at the last of the frog water areas. This most recent past weekend there was some cooler and wetter weather which so far for the begin part of the week has perked up some River mouth action for the small boat trollers and a few pier casters. The forecast thru the rest of the week is again for warm and clear and dry weather so look for continued start and stop salmon migrations. This year's so far salmon activity is ahead of last year's at this time so I'm of the optimistic mind looking forward to decent numbers of fish yet to come. This past summer's trolling creel was light, and presuming the total fish numbers are still good, this could mean good returns for trib action.

Remember you still have to get out and fish... Come experience great fishing as it takes place instead of solely relying and waiting on internet reports. Anglers who find the best fishing often anticipate when the right conditions will come together. Internet bragging seems a lot less prevelant then it was a few years ago, and our reports tend to be even keeled - not reporting fish numbers great enough that they would be jumping in your waders - even if they were! Good water flows will be the biggest factor for trout and salmon migrations in the Oak Orchard River and in the area smaller tribs and pushing them upstream. Weather and the calendar is the biggest factor for angling pressure and bringing more fishermen out or keeping them indoors. There are always some exceptional fish caught in the trib season, just check out the pics below and in the archives. Come on out and get in on some trophy action this fall, winter and spring and add to the photo collection!

What does the Oak Orchard River, shoreline and other WNY tribs offer? The chance to fish from your own two feet for trout and salmon you measure in pounds, not inches, for 7 - 9 months depending upon weather and water conditions. A trip to the Oak Orchard River and WNY to fish for World Class trout and salmon is still easily the best bargain in trophy fishing. The working man's big trout and salmon trip is still here, and it's not even a contest compared to the other exotic, far off angling destinations. We believe our web reports are the straightest poop by far about Oak Orchard and most WNY conditions. We are living and experiencing all the fishing action directly or thru trusted reports of other die hard anglers as it happens. So how do you know if trophy trout and salmon will be catchable upon your travels to the Oak Orchard and WNY area? All the best web info, bulletin boards, angler skill and top notch equipment cannot replace getting out there and actually fishing! The nuances of fish migrations is an inexact science and we cannot predict the future. Fish as soon as reasonable conditions allow instead of waiting for supposed better conditions that may or may not materialize. Be one of the lucky few that experiences good fishing as it takes place instead of hearing that famous quote, "you should have been here yesterday!"

Tight lines and smooth drags!
Licorice Man


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Latest Catch Photos

Almost silver Kings from the OOrchard River mouth. Would you rather catch 3 of these freshies or 10 old moldies upstream later?!?! mid Sep 2015.
Small boat trolling with simple flat line rods (or casting) can yield nice Kings at the OOrchard River mouth and lower river in Sep and Oct (2015).
The Licorice Man connects on a big hard fighter while casting the OOrchard River mouth 3rd week Sep 2015.



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