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  strives to provide its patrons with Click to see bigger pic reliable stream, weather and fishing conditions during the fall, winter and spring. We are happy to provide this information for anglers so that they can make informed decisions about fishing trips. Please be aware, however, that weather, fishing conditions and water flows can change in a moment's notice. Hydro power generation can and does alter water flows. Not all fishermen's expectations and skills are equal and if you wait for "perfect" conditions, you'll likely miss some good opportunities. No guarantee of success, natural conditions or safety is ever implied. Here's what we know right now...

Last updated: weekend Sep 24, 2016

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Lodging dates are available for 2016 - 2017 trib season. There's lots of good fishing for salmon, steelhead and brown trout ahead! Stay at the shop Licorice Lodge in the heart of the OOrchard fishing action! OR new lodging available at our well appointed private ground floor Garage Lodge located just 5 miles east on Route 18, convienent to Sandy Creek. Call ASAP for reservations!

The Oak Orchard Pen Rearing Association received approx 15,000 steelhead placed in net pens in the OOrchard Apr 2016. Approx 106,000 King salmon where placed in the net pens for hopeful imprinting on the OOrchard. These numbers represent just some of the total number of salmonids stocked here in Orleans County annually. Many thanks to local stakeholders for their efforts of securing, feeding and monitoring the fish. More tributary anglers are invited to help with feeding the fish and cleaning the pens. Contact us for how and where to help out in 2017. Be sure you contact NYSDEC with comments on the cormorant situation and the impacts on the young stocked salmonids.

The Sportsmen Archer's Club Fly Fishing Only Catch and Release Contest will be held Oct 19, 20, 21 - 2016. Everyone always enjoys the great hospitality and comradorie of the Archer's Club and will experience some good fishing. Their cooperation with out of the area fishermen is truly above board and greatly appreciated by all. Please contact us or see the Club for registration. This quote from the Archers Club - "The access to the Archer's Club to fish 2016 spring fishing - park at the top of hill and walk down to fish. Fall fishing, parking and breakfast/lunch will start the first week of Oct and run thru Veterans Day. After that fishermaen can park at the top of the hill and walk down." All non club members are reminded to act as courteous and responsible guests on the private bankside lands of the Archer's Club so that we may all enjoy the fishing access there now and in the future.

We encourage all users to follow the site rules for access and fishing on the Brookfield Power Company lands. We cannot speak for the power company or interpret their site rules. We have a map posted outside the shop door highlighting the PFD zone just downstream of the dam and on the overflow channel on the OOrchard. We can also forward you a copy of the Brookfield Power Company brochure highlighting that area if you provide us your email. For specific questions about the Waterport dam site rules you can email Inquiries@Brookfieldrenewable.com. We continue to lobby for better water access on the far side or west side of the Waterport dam hydro pool and we encourage you to do the same with Brookfield, NYSDEC and/or Orleans County Tourism.

Orleans Outdoor has changed it's name to Oak Orchard Tackle & Lodge. Check out our new sign and logo in current fish pics below. Watch for other changes soon like our new website. We'd like to go live with that this fall/winter with more upgrades after that! We look forward to another nearly 20 years as WNY's longest running speciality trout and salmon tributary fly, spin and float shop!

End of Summer Sale... Ask about savings of 20% plus on big ticket stuff like rods and reels and combos and waders and jacs, etc... we'd like to move out some overstock 2015 gear in preparation for fall 2016! Sale lasts only thru Sept for great savings for you!

Some lodging dates at the shop and new lodge are still available. Call 585 682 4546 ASAP for a reservation.

Sep 17 thru 30.

Oct 1 - 4, 2 rooms. Oct 5 - 6, whole lodge. Oct 9 -10, whole lodge. Oct 19 - 20, whole lodge. Oct 29 - 30, 1 room.

Nov 2, 1 room. Nov 6 - 8, 2 rooms. Nov 9 - 10, 1 room. Nov 13, 1 room. Nov 14, 2 rooms. Nov 15, 1 room. Nov 16, 2 rooms. Nov 17 - 18, 2 rooms. Nov 19, 1 room. Nov 20 - 25, 2 rooms. Nov 26 and forward - open.

New lodge available Oct 1 - 7. Oct 11 - 12. Oct 27. Oct 30. Nov 13 - 15. Nov 20 - 30.

weekend Sep 24...
Looks like things should start to happen in earnest now with a nice temp cool down and cool east winds off big Lake O that started Fri. Even with the previous weeks hot and blue bird calm weather the salmon were showing up around the Rivermouth. Check out the current fish pics below. So far not really a lot of guys out and next to no one in the upstream fast water reaches. Angling pressure should pick up now as more guys target the Rivermouth and lower/middle river areas. We haven't seen yet many fish boiling around the say those middle river spots like the Bridges, but this cool down should put some fish there. We'll have to wait and see if they stage there much or continue quickly upriver. As far as the timing of migrations, the hot and dry summer seems to have delayed things so far. Hopefully we can have some seasonally cool and wet weather this fall. There has been some action too on the area smaller tribs mostly in the estuary or rivermouth areas for salmon and that action should get better with this cool down. Lots of upstream weeds still but a few fish could be sneaking upstream with the benefit of off and on Erie Canal releases.

There may yet be some time to go by before there is any consistent upstream fast water action, but you can get in on some of the best fighting and hardest hitting and freshest salmon of the season right now - so check in with us now for some of that conventional gear and then later on we can help you with the fly, float or spin drift gear too. We can arrange an OORchard small boat casting or trolling trip now for Sep or Oct with Capt Oravec so let us now. We are on everyday operating hours now for the fall, winter and spring and putting the shop together with some great new tackle and flies and gear and t-shirts and more orders yet! We appreciate any help you can give with tackle and licenses and gear, etc so that we can continue to provide this blog report and continue to lobby for the tributary salmonid resource on stakeholder groups and with NYSDEC and County interests.

Sep 21...
Well so much for the no 80 degree forecast... There's more unseasonable warm weather forecast thru today and tomorrow. Cooler forecast after that and this weekend. Even with the warm weather continuing and mostly clear water and calm Lake conditions (neither good to encourage salmon movement on shore), the Rivermouth and pier action is fairly consistent with some fish hooked each morning or evening or at night. Reports of just a handful of fish all the way to the dam and likewise a few fish seen boiling around the mid river staging spots like at the Bridges. Land lubber casters, small boat casters and small boat trollers are in on the action now, check out the egg laden female that Wayne scored at the Rivermouth today in fish pics below posted soon. He got 2 other fish and more bites too. We are resuming everyday operating hours on Thu or Fri this week and remember all those calling that you have to leave a message so that we can help you out. All messages are returned same day.

weekend Sep 17...
Well with a gloomy and rainy AM to start today, Sat, there was not surprisingly some of the first consistent action at the Rivermouth with a few hook-ups and some salmon seen boiling around. Some trollers were also in shore close to the Rivermouth. Some more precip is forecasted and with continued cool weather a few fish might push into the river at least to the mid river staging holes.

Confirmation of a few salmon being hooked up from the OOrchard pierheads. Just the start to the action, so look for it to get better as the cool (or wetter)weather becomes more consistent. Still the warm and dry weather is the biggest hold-up yet for any serious upstream salmon migrations. Some years with cooler weather we'd have been into at least Rivermouth action for a couple weeks, so this year is a little slower to start. Most charters are still off shore some but some civilians are in closer around the Rivermouth and are getting a few trolling bites in the low light periods. This weekend forecast has the chance for showers and at least I see no 80's for high temps forecasted thru next week. We know of no serious upstream fast water action yet, water temps are likely still in the 70's F. We know of no serious staging action yet in the mid river holes say around the Bridges area. When they are holding there they reveal themselves usually by boiling around. There is the reported start of some Salmon River action, so the OOrchard being lower gradient and warmer will be somewhat behind. Other area small tribs are low but at least at times there may be some Erie Canal water being passed thru tribs to the east and that could be a draw for early fish. Look for plenty o weeds tho until it gets colder and they flush out from higher water.

Sep 09...
No great consistent cool down yet, but the days are shorter and the nites are cool so water temps are easing down. Some big Lake O trollers are moving closer inshore and a few have made some passes right outside the Rivermouth. This weekends forecasted weather with winds and precip and rain could move some fish in closer or put some actually in the river. A few guys are hitting the pierheads and we have reports of a few salmon being hooked up. Lots of inquiries about this angler getting out there, but I've been pretty busy and I still have alternate summer employment to wrap up. I'm not sure how much time I'll have for early salmon action, so anglers not seeing my first salmon pic shouldn't take that as there being no action yet. Next weeks forecast looks cool and that would be a good thing. No doubt we will have fits and starts of the cool and wetter weather coming. Stay tuned and get ready or better yet get out there!

late summer...
It surely has been hot and dry this summer, but that may not be such a bad thing as the big Lake O resets after a couple of years of exceptional cold. So this summer's hot weather and last winter's warmer weather may add up to more "normal" temp set-ups and migration patterns for trout and salmon. I'm hopeful we'll see some "more normal" Rivermouth staging by salmon that seemed spotty the last couple years. Just recently too for Aug we are seeing some precip here on the WNY Lake O plains so that bodes well for trib flows. Hopefully we can continue a wet trend thru this fall, winter and spring. Big Lake O trollers have done pretty well thru the early and mid summer this year boating some nice Kings. The numbers seem to be there so we should see good returns in the OOrchard this fall. All that good King action takes some pressure off steelhead and browns getting creeled so that also is a positive thing. This angler did better this past spring then 2015 for Lakeshore brown trout hook-ups and that usually translates to good fall trib action. Looking ahead for the future of the big Lake O fishery there are still some challenges and concerns over baitfish populations and more specifically select YOY alewife classes. This angler is part of of a NYS and Canadian LOC stakeholder group where the baitfish situation is being discussed so I'll continue to lobby for the best interests of tributary anglers as it relates to a continued thriving and world class Lake O salmonid fishery. Stay tuned!

Remember you still have to get out and fish... Come experience great fishing as it takes place instead of solely relying and waiting on internet reports. Anglers who find the best fishing often anticipate when the right conditions will come together. Internet bragging seems a lot less prevelant then it was a few years ago, and our reports tend to be even keeled - not reporting fish numbers great enough that they would be jumping in your waders - even if they were! Good water flows will be the biggest factor for trout and salmon migrations in the Oak Orchard River and in the area smaller tribs and pushing them upstream. Weather and the calendar is the biggest factor for angling pressure and bringing more fishermen out or keeping them indoors. There are always some exceptional fish caught in the trib season, just check out the pics below and in the archives. Come on out and get in on some trophy action this fall, winter and spring and add to the photo collection!

What does the Oak Orchard River, the Lakeshore and other WNY tribs offer? The chance to fish from your own two feet for trout and salmon you measure in pounds, not inches, for 7 - 9 months depending upon weather and water conditions. A trip to the Oak Orchard River and WNY to fish for World Class trout and salmon is still easily the best bargain in trophy fishing. The working man's big trout and salmon trip is still here, and it's not even a contest compared to the other exotic, far off angling destinations. We believe our web reports are the straightest poop by far about Oak Orchard and most WNY conditions. We are living and experiencing all the fishing action directly or thru trusted reports of other die hard anglers as it happens. So how do you know if trophy trout and salmon will be catchable upon your travels to the Oak Orchard and WNY area? All the best web info, bulletin boards, angler skill and top notch equipment cannot replace getting out there and actually fishing! The nuances of fish migrations is an inexact science and we cannot predict the future. Fish as soon as reasonable conditions allow instead of waiting for supposed better conditions that may or may not materialize. Be one of the lucky few that experiences good fishing as it takes place instead of hearing that famous quote, "you should have been here yesterday!"

Tight lines and smooth drags!
Licorice Man


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Latest Catch Photos

Small boat trollers with simple spreads at the Rivermouth & lower river intercept fish before they make it upstream! You can cast or float drift fish too. Wayne finds this King right outside the OOrchard 4th week of Sep 2016.
Early AM casting a glo spoon before the typical later arriving upstream drift crowd arrives yields another big, fresh, hard fighting King for the Licorice Man at the OOrchard Rivermouth!



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