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  strives to provide its patrons with Click to see bigger pic reliable stream, weather and fishing conditions during the fall, winter and spring. We are happy to provide this information for anglers so that they can make informed decisions about fishing trips. Please be aware, however, that weather, fishing conditions and water flows can change in a moment's notice. Hydro power generation can and does alter water flows. Not all fishermen's expectations and skills are equal and if you wait for "perfect" conditions, you'll likely miss some good opportunities. No guarantee of success, natural conditions or safety is ever implied. Here's what we know right now...

Last updated: weekend Feb 06, 2016

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Lodging dates are available for 2015/2016 trib season. There's lots of good fishing for salmon, steelhead and brown trout ahead! Stay at the Licorice Lodge at the shop in the heart of the fishing action! New lodging available at the our private well appointed Garage Lodge located just 5 miles east on Route 18, convienent to Sandy Creek. Reservations now accepted for fall 2016.

The Oak Orchard Pen Rearing Association received approx 10,000 steelhead placed in net pens in the OOrchard Apr 2015. Approx 106,000 King salmon where placed in the net pens for hopeful imprinting on the OOrchard. These numbers represent just some of the total number of salmonids stocked here in Orleans County annually. Many thanks to local stakeholders for their efforts of securing, feeding and monitoring the fish. More tributary anglers are invited to help with feeding the fish and cleaning the pens. Contact us for how and where to help out in 2016. Be sure you contact NYSDEC for comments on the cormorant situation and the impacts on the young stocked salmonids.

The Sportsmen Archer's Club Fly Fishing Only Catch and Release Contest will be held Oct 19, 20, 21 - 2016. Everyone always enjoys the great hospitality and comradorie of the Archer's Club and will experience some good fishing. Their cooperation with out of the area fishermen is truly above board and greatly appreciated by all. Please contact us or see the Club for registration. The access to the Archer's Club to fish 2016 spring fishing - park at the top of hill and walk down to fish. Fall fishing, parking and breakfast/lunch will start the first week of Oct and run thru Veterans Day. After that fishermaen can park at the top of the hill and walk down. All non club members are reminded to act as courteous and responsible guests on the private bankside lands of the Archer's Club so that we may all enjoy the fishing access there now and in the future.

Tributary Fly Fishing Class was held on Sat, Apr 11, 2015. Our great instructors NYSLOG Capt. Jason Franz from Trout 'n' About and RonB aka the Licorice Man gave the intro course and streamside demos. An informative and fun filled day where we help shorten the learning curve for you. Lunch was provided. Call or email for more info and pre-registration in 2016!

We encourage all users to follow the site rules for access and fishing on the Brookfield Power Company lands. We cannot speak for the power company or interpret their site rules. We have a map posted outside the shop door highlighting the PFD zone just downstream of the dam and on the overflow channel on the OOrchard. We can also forward you a copy of the Brookfield Power Company brochure highlighting that area if you provide us your email. For specific questions about the Waterport dam site rules you can email Inquiries@Brookfieldrenewable.com.

Orleans Outdoor has changed it's name to Oak Orchard Tackle & Lodge. Check out our new sign and logo in current fish pics below. We look forward to another nearly 20 years as WNY's longest running speciality trout and salmon tributary fly, spin and float shop!

Thanks for all the support at the Niagara Fishing and Outdoor Expo on Jan 22, 23, 24 - 2016. Check at www.niagarafishingexpo.com. We have some show specials left over that we will prob run thru Feb including discounts up to 25% OFF on fly, spin or float rod n reel combos. Contact us for items available.

weekend Feb 06...
Seasonably warm weather is forecast Sat and Sun with highs in the 30's or near 40 F. Just the chance for snow showers. All the trib flows are open without any significant icing for now. Flows in the OOrchard are med and just barely stained with prob 3 feet of viz. Flows consist of turbine water and no overflow. The other area smaller tribs have med flows and stained water color and are retreating. Previous higher flows in the smaller tribs were the highest they'de been in months. Med flows should hang in for the short term but over-the-all more precip or snow and melt is needed for prolonged good flows. There should be the chance for some fresh steelhead migrations, although confirming reports are few due to continued light fishing pressure.

Feb 05...
Flows are being maintained in the OOrchard at a nice med level with a little color to the water. Flows should hang in for a while like thru next week and then slowly retreat and clear up without any more precip. By winter time standards the flow and weather conditions are pretty agreeable and there should be the chance for some fresh fish migrations along with the previous resident fall and early winter rehab browns and darker steelhead. Looks like there are just a few more guys out and about so far for this begin part of the weekend. Flows in the smaller tribs are open to fish with slightly high and stained water color. Those waterways are dropping and clearing and likewise should offer a nice fishable window with the chance for fresh steelhead that are well distributed upstream.

Feb 04...
Mild for the season weather is forecast right thru the weekend with highs in the high 30's F. Just the chance for some snow showers. There is no snow cover here on the WNY Lake Ontario Lakeplain. Quite a nice window of fishability sans ice and cold weather now on the back side of the most recent rise in flows in the OOrchard and area smaller tribs. Flows in the OOrchard are slightly high with slightly stained viz of 2 - 3 feet. Flows consist of turbine water. The other area smaller tribs have high and dirty flows that are retreating and mostly clear of winter time ice. Those smaller waterways should offer up the chance for some fresh fish migrations now and forward provided theres no return to prolonged cold temps. Fishing pressure on the OOrchard is reasonable with some darker steelhead and rehab browns reported. Flows should be enough for a few fresh steelhead on a "trickle" schedule, unlike a blowout that receeds and reveals a small bunch of fish at once.

Feb 03...
A nice shot of rain last night but not enough for a blow out. Temps are unseasonably warm today with forecasted cooler, but not really cold, temps thru the rest of the week and upcoming weekend. Flows in the OOrchard are med - slightly high with slightly stained water color of 2 -3 feet of viz. Flows may get a little more off color but prob not much higher over the next day or two. There is no icing to hamper any upstream fishing efforts. The other area smaller tribs have high and dirty flows that should be retreating thru the end of this week. Those smaller tribs have moved out a fair amount of winter ice and should allow for a window to fish without any significant icing back up after these most recent high flows. Fish should be redistributed thru those waterways with the chance for some fresh steelhead migrations. Fishing pressure still remains pretty light on the OOrchard with guys getting some darker steelhead and some rehab browns. Although we haven't got our blow out flows yet, the existing flows are def enough to draw some fresh steelhead migrations. With any luck flows will stay up with reasonable milder weather and precip, that is, if it is not going to be cold and snowy.

Feb 02...
The warm-up is a little less then forecasted here thanks to cool winds off Lake Ontario. Highs are in the high 30's F today with the chance for rain on the order of 1/2 or more inches forecast tonight and tomorrow. We'll have to wait and see how much rain comes and what trib flows will do. A good blow out would be great but not likely to happen just yet without a pile of rain or snowmelt. Otherwise see previouis report for recent conditions. Good persistent drifters are into a few fish on the OOrchard with the chance for an area small trib fishable window now and maybe when flows receed after any precip and before things freeze back up.

Feb 01...
Flows in the OOrchard are up a little more to med and just slightly stained with 2 - 3 feet of viz. Flows for now may not get much higher but could continue to get a little more stained. Temps are forecast warm thru wed and then there is the chance for precip. With any significant precip flows could be on the rise some more. The existing run-off is not that hot and heavy as there was no great snowpack and most of that is gone now anyway. Fishing pressure remains pretty light with a handful of guys out on the OOrchard. Reports indicate some darker steelhead and some rehab browns and a few fresher steelhead. Fresh fish trickling in might be the theme under the flows we have now and that wouldn't be too much off the way previous fall salmon and brown trout "runs" proceeded. Other area smaller tribs are opening up some with at least upstream reaches open that will probably turn into more downstream reaches open as the warm weather continues. Those smaller waterways have med - slightly high flows with stained water color and could be moving some fresh steelhead upstream.

Remember you still have to get out and fish... Come experience great fishing as it takes place instead of solely relying and waiting on internet reports. Anglers who find the best fishing often anticipate when the right conditions will come together. Internet bragging seems a lot less prevelant then it was a few years ago, and our reports tend to be even keeled - not reporting fish numbers great enough that they would be jumping in your waders - even if they were! Good water flows will be the biggest factor for trout and salmon migrations in the Oak Orchard River and in the area smaller tribs and pushing them upstream. Weather and the calendar is the biggest factor for angling pressure and bringing more fishermen out or keeping them indoors. There are always some exceptional fish caught in the trib season, just check out the pics below and in the archives. Come on out and get in on some trophy action this fall, winter and spring and add to the photo collection!

What does the Oak Orchard River, the Lakeshore and other WNY tribs offer? The chance to fish from your own two feet for trout and salmon you measure in pounds, not inches, for 7 - 9 months depending upon weather and water conditions. A trip to the Oak Orchard River and WNY to fish for World Class trout and salmon is still easily the best bargain in trophy fishing. The working man's big trout and salmon trip is still here, and it's not even a contest compared to the other exotic, far off angling destinations. We believe our web reports are the straightest poop by far about Oak Orchard and most WNY conditions. We are living and experiencing all the fishing action directly or thru trusted reports of other die hard anglers as it happens. So how do you know if trophy trout and salmon will be catchable upon your travels to the Oak Orchard and WNY area? All the best web info, bulletin boards, angler skill and top notch equipment cannot replace getting out there and actually fishing! The nuances of fish migrations is an inexact science and we cannot predict the future. Fish as soon as reasonable conditions allow instead of waiting for supposed better conditions that may or may not materialize. Be one of the lucky few that experiences good fishing as it takes place instead of hearing that famous quote, "you should have been here yesterday!"

Tight lines and smooth drags!
Licorice Man


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Latest Catch Photos

New name - same shop and lodge! Look for web upgrades and other changes coming this winter and spring 2015/2016.
This fly angler hit the backside of higher water from a shot of rain that produced the only real rise in flows so far this fall and found this willing taker from a small area trib. Begin part of Oct 2015.
Small boat trolling with simple flat line rods (or casting) can yield nice Kings at the OOrchard River mouth and lower river in Sep and Oct (2015).
The Licorice Man connects on a big hard fighter while casting the OOrchard River mouth 3rd week Sep 2015.



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