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  strives to provide its patrons with Click to see bigger pic reliable stream, weather and fishing conditions during the fall, winter and spring. We are happy to provide this information for anglers so that they can make informed decisions about fishing trips. Please be aware, however, that weather, fishing conditions and water flows can change in a moment's notice. Hydro power generation can and does alter water flows. Not all fishermen's expectations and skills are equal and if you wait for "perfect" conditions, you'll likely miss some good opportunities. No guarantee of success, natural conditions or safety is ever implied. Here's what we know right now...

Last updated: Jan 28, 2015

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Lodging dates are available for 2015 trib season. There's lots of good fishing for steelhead and brown trout ahead! Stay at the Licorice Lodge at the shop in the heart of the fishing action! Brand new additional lodging available for Fall 2015 located just 5 miles east on Route 18, convienent to Sandy Creek. All lodging reservations now accepted for 2015.

The Oak Orchard Pen Rearing Association received approx 30,000 steelhead placed in net pens and directly into the OOrchard Apr 15, 2014. Approx 115,000 King salmon where also placed in the net pens for hopeful imprinting on the OOrchard. These numbers represent just some of the total number of salmonids stocked here in Orleans County annually. Many thanks to Bob Songin and other local stakeholders for their efforts of securing, feeding and monitoring the fish. More tributary anglers are invited in 2014 to help with feeding the fish and cleaning the pens. Contact us for how and where to help out.

The Sportsmen Archer's Club Fly Fishing Only Catch and Release Contest will be held Oct 21, 22, 23 - 2015. Everyone is sure to enjoy the great hospitality and comradorie of the Archer's Club and experience some real good fishing. Their cooperation with out of the area fishermen is truly above board and greatly appreciated by all. Please contact us or see the Club for registration.

Tributary Fly Fishing Class was held Sat, March 22, 2014. Join our great instructors NYSLOG Paul Jacob from Reel Action Fly Fishing and Capt. Jason Franz from Trout 'n' About and RonB aka the Licorice Man in 2015. An informative and fun filled day where we can help shorten the learning curve for you. Lunch is provided. Call or email for more info and pre-registration!

Be sure you follow-up with your comments on the Waterport dam situation via the contacts listed below, especially the first three. It's very important! For specific questions email the power company at the 4th contact listed. We can't speak for Brookfield!

Yes you can still fish all of the same water, there are just some new rules in place! There is significant misinformation out there about the new site rules put forth by Brookfield Power at the Waterport dam. Read the info below carefully, PFD's are required only on the Brookfield Power Company lands where water entry is permitted. Brookfield does not own the lands downstream anywhere near the end of the peninsula or near the Archer's Club! There are no new concerns or changes or otherwise on the rest of the river say on the Oak Orchard River Public Fishing Access Area or around the Archer's Club, etc...

If anglers see any spinning or erratic swimming or sunken steelhead here in the OOrchard or other tribs, please report it to us and we will forward this info to NYSDEC who is looking to gather info to see if there are any issues here like they have been seeing some on the Salmon River.

Tributary fly tying evening classes start last week of Jan or first week of Feb. We supply all tools and materials for 3 flies a night running for 6 weeks. All the relevant trout and salmon patterns are covered for beginner tyers or intermediate refresher. Call or email for questions ASAP and to reserve your spot.

Jan 28...
The area got a couple more inches out of the last snowfall, with now approx 4 - 6 inches of windblown accummulations here on the Lakeplain. Cold temps forecast today, bit of a warm-up tomorrow and then cold again for the end of week and weekend. Chance of snow Thu night and Fri. Flows in the OOrchard are hanging on at low and clear, at some point without more runoff they may drop lower. Theres some bank ice and most of the downstream slower slack water is frozen over. There's open fast water upstream and at the dam. Just a handful of guys fishing, getting some browns and few steelhead near the dam or the deeper water spots where some fish are pooled up. We'll update next on or about Fri/Sat.

Jan 26...
Cold temps and mostly clear forecast thru this week. Just some snow showers today with no significant impact from the N'orester. Too bad - we could use some snowfall, with so far just a lite snowpack here on the Niagara Frontier. Flows are low and clear in the OOcrchard and could drop lower with cold weather hanging in. There's some bank ice and the downstream slower slack water may close in some more. Anglers can expect to pick up a few browns or steelhead in the deeper holding spots like at the dam. The other area smaller tribs are frozen in.

weekend Jan 24...
Flows have dropped a bit to somewhere between low and real low in the OOrchard. Water color is clear with a fair amount of bank ice. Surprisingly there remains a good bit of the downstream frog water open to fish. Float guys are hitting that pretty good with a few fly drifters and swingers upstream. Look for a few steelhead upstream and some re-run browns downstream. There's always the chance for a bigger fresher fish. The other area smaller waterways are low and clear and frozen. Flows will likely remain low or lower for now without any significant precip or snow for snowmelt.

Jan 23...
See previous report. Slight warm-up forecast today and tomorrow with highs in the mid 30's F. No impacts or snow here on the Niagara Frontier from the east coast storm, just chance of snow showers tomorrow.

Jan 22...
So far flows are at least hanging in at low instead of real low in the OOrchard. There's open water to fish although there's some bank ice and the downstream slack water is freezing back up. With cold weather hanging in and no precip or snowmelt flows may continue to drop. The other area smaller waterways are mostly frozen over. Larger waterways like the Genny or Niagara can be an option. Fishing pressure is real lite here on the OOrchard. Expect a few steelhead or brown trout hook-ups in the deeper water holding spots. Better fresh fish action hopefully to come on higher and warming flows this later winter and spring. But as we have said before... by winter time standards it ain't too bad!!!

Jan 20...
See previous report. Look for lite fishing pressure thru this week. Flows in the OOrchard may continue to drop with cold temps hanging in. Anglers can also look toward the Niagara for drift boat or bankside action or the Genny as conditions allow. Hopefully we can net some more snowpack here on the Lakeplain leading to good run-off for later winter and spring steelhead.

Jan 19...
Flows in the OOrchard did come up some thru the past weekend with some resultant pretty good fishing action. Thru Sat night and Sun temps were around 40 F so that got some run-off going and we lost half or so of the lite snowpack we had. Today temps are back below freezing and frecasted to stay that way thru the week, so flows are back down to low. With continued cold temps flows may retreat to real low. The other area smaller waterways are still mostly locked up and frozen. Over-the-all lite fishing pressure, a few cars and guys at each parking spot who reported pretty good action thru the better past weekend flows, look for tougher action now on the lowering flows. Some of the downstream slower slack water did open back up, for now, till cold temps and the low flows close that off again.

See important contact info following...

Anglers fishing at the Waterport dam are reminded to follow all site rules and user requirements (site rules) and warnings, to not go beyond or wade past restricted areas and to obey all instructions from site or security personnel. Those few who might choose to not obey site rules could jeopordize the good and respectful actions of most anglers who enjoy access for fishing provided by Brookfield Renewable Power (power company) on their privately held lands. For anglers accessing Brookfield PFD required zones, PFDs can be purchased here for fall 2014 where we offer a few different styles that should not hinder your current fishing system set-up including belt models, suspenders and foam vests.

The power company has initiated the site rules and user requirements while fishing at the Waterport dam on their privately held lands. The site rules are an alternative to not being allowed access for fishing on thier privately held lands.

We have encouraged users to obey the developing site rules from the beginning (see above) and recommend continued following site rules. The power company has put forth the site rules for the public safety. An incident this past fall 2013 where two users fell in the water while fishing immediately against the powerhouse building, and other factors, are likely responsible for the power company's new site rules. Some of the power company's private lands include the powerhouse area on the turbine channel, the overflow channel bankside areas extending downstream, and the turbine channel bankside areas extending downstream to where it meets the south boundary of the Oak Orchard River Public Fishing Access Area (approx 800 ft downstream from the old RR trestle.) The NYSDEC also owns lands of an approx 60 foot wide swath across the turbine and overflow channels that would approximate the footprint of the old RR trestle.

New site rules include but may not be limited to...

restricted wading areas on both sides of the turbine channel at the powerhouse,

exclusion for wading or water entry on the far side or west side of the turbine channel at the powerhouse,

exclusion from some area below the falls on the overflow channel,

a PFD required zone on the overflow channel,

a PFD required zone extending downstream on the turbine channel starting at the old RR trestle to the southern boundary of the Oak Orchard River Public Fishing Access Area (which is approx 800 ft or half way to the end of the peninsula).

Prior to the new site rules there has been a concentrated salmon fishing effort of many users at the Waterport dam in the fall time-frame over a period of many years. There has also been lawful trout and salmon fishing by fly, spin and float anglers during the fall, winter and spring over a period of many years at the Waterport dam and on all the rest of the power company's lands on the Oak Orchard River.

The new site rules may impact your fishing effort on the Oak Orchard River at the Waterport dam. Your fishing effort on non power company lands on the rest of the Oak Orchard River could also be impacted, for example, by displacing some fall time-frame salmon anglers to other parts of the river.

If you have any concerns or comments about the new site rules you should contact... For the first three contacts you could send one email and copy everyone or call.

Mike Waterhouse the Orleans County Sportfishing Coordinator at sportfishing@orleansny.com. 585 589 3103

Orleans County Tourism at tourism@orleansny.com.
585 589 3198

NYSDEC Region 8 at fwfish8@gw.dec.state.ny.us.
585 226 2466

Brookfield directly for specific questions about the new site rules at inquiries.newyork@brookfieldrenewable.com.

Your comments and concerns are important for the involved policy makers to insure continued great trout and salmon fishing opportunities for all anglers on the Oak Orchard River. Given the timeframe of recent developments near the end of the 2014 spring tributary fishing season, be sure you share this info with all your fishing friends thru whatever social media or forums appropriate.

Remember you have to get out and fish. Come experience great fishing as it takes place instead of solely relying and waiting on internet reports. Anglers who find the best fishing often anticipate when the right conditions will come together. Internet bragging seems a lot less prevelant then it was a few years ago, and our reports tend to be even keeled - not reporting fish numbers great enough that they would be jumping in your waders - even if they were! Good water flows will be the biggest factor for trout and salmon migrations in the Oak Orchard River and in the area smaller tribs and pushing them upstream. Weather is the biggest factor for angler migrations and bringing more fishermen out and about. There have been some exceptional fish caught this trib season, just check out the pics below and in the archives. Come on out and get in on some trophy action this fall, winter and spring and add to the photo collection!

What does the Oak Orchard River, Lake Ontario and WNY offer? The chance to fish from your own two feet for trout and salmon you measure in pounds, not inches, for 7 - 9 months depending upon weather and water conditions. Recent economic conditions may make it more difficult for a fishing trip, but a trip here to the Oak Orchard River and WNY to fish for World Class trout and salmon is still easily the best bargain in trophy fishing. The working man's big trout and salmon trip is still here, and it's not even a contest compared to the other exotic, far off angling destinations. We believe our web reports are the straightest poop by far about Oak Orchard and most WNY conditions. We are living and experiencing all the fishing action directly or thru trusted reports of other die hard anglers as it happens. So how do you know if trophy trout and salmon will be catchable upon your travels to the Oak Orchard and WNY area? All the best web info, bulletin boards, angler skill and top notch equipment cannot replace getting out there and actually fishing! The nuances of fish migrations is an inexact science and we cannot predict the future. Fish as soon as reasonable conditions allow instead of waiting for supposed better conditions that may or may not materialize. Be one of the lucky few that experiences good fishing as it takes place instead of hearing that famous quote, "you should have been here yesterday!"

Tight lines and smooth drags!
Licorice Man


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Latest Catch Photos

Nice bonus Atlantic salmon OOrchard River Fall 2014.
How about this bruiser brown trout!? Great fall brown trout action OORchard River fall 2014.
Even during the Dec 2014 OORchard River low and clear flows some big steelhead have been caught.



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