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  strives to provide its patrons with Click to see bigger pic reliable stream, weather and fishing conditions during the fall, winter and spring. We are happy to provide this information for anglers so that they can make informed decisions about fishing trips. Please be aware, however, that weather, fishing conditions and water flows can change in a moment's notice. Hydro power generation can and does alter water flows. Not all fishermen's expectations and skills are equal and if you wait for "perfect" conditions, you'll likely miss some good opportunities. No guarantee of success, natural conditions or safety is ever implied. Here's what we know right now...

Last updated: weekend Aug 27, 2016

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Lodging dates are available for 2016 - 2017 trib season. There's lots of good fishing for salmon, steelhead and brown trout ahead! Stay at the shop Licorice Lodge in the heart of the OOrchard fishing action! OR new lodging available at our well appointed private ground floor Garage Lodge located just 5 miles east on Route 18, convienent to Sandy Creek. Call ASAP for reservations!

The Oak Orchard Pen Rearing Association received approx 15,000 steelhead placed in net pens in the OOrchard Apr 2016. Approx 106,000 King salmon where placed in the net pens for hopeful imprinting on the OOrchard. These numbers represent just some of the total number of salmonids stocked here in Orleans County annually. Many thanks to local stakeholders for their efforts of securing, feeding and monitoring the fish. More tributary anglers are invited to help with feeding the fish and cleaning the pens. Contact us for how and where to help out in 2017. Be sure you contact NYSDEC with comments on the cormorant situation and the impacts on the young stocked salmonids.

The Sportsmen Archer's Club Fly Fishing Only Catch and Release Contest will be held Oct 19, 20, 21 - 2016. Everyone always enjoys the great hospitality and comradorie of the Archer's Club and will experience some good fishing. Their cooperation with out of the area fishermen is truly above board and greatly appreciated by all. Please contact us or see the Club for registration. This quote from the Archers Club - "The access to the Archer's Club to fish 2016 spring fishing - park at the top of hill and walk down to fish. Fall fishing, parking and breakfast/lunch will start the first week of Oct and run thru Veterans Day. After that fishermaen can park at the top of the hill and walk down." All non club members are reminded to act as courteous and responsible guests on the private bankside lands of the Archer's Club so that we may all enjoy the fishing access there now and in the future.

We encourage all users to follow the site rules for access and fishing on the Brookfield Power Company lands. We cannot speak for the power company or interpret their site rules. We have a map posted outside the shop door highlighting the PFD zone just downstream of the dam and on the overflow channel on the OOrchard. We can also forward you a copy of the Brookfield Power Company brochure highlighting that area if you provide us your email. For specific questions about the Waterport dam site rules you can email Inquiries@Brookfieldrenewable.com. We continue to lobby for better water access on the far side or west side of the Waterport dam hydro pool and we encourage you to do the same with Brookfield, NYSDEC and/or Orleans County Tourism.

Orleans Outdoor has changed it's name to Oak Orchard Tackle & Lodge. Check out our new sign and logo in current fish pics below. Watch for other changes soon like our new website. We'd like to go live with that this fall with more upgrades planned this winter! We look forward to another nearly 20 years as WNY's longest running speciality trout and salmon tributary fly, spin and float shop!

End of Summer Sale... Ask about savings of 20% plus on big ticket stuff like rods and reels and combos and waders and jacs, etc... we'd like to move out some overstock gear in preparation for fall 2017! Sale lasts only thru Sept for great savings for you!

weekend Aug 27...
The hot weather continues, but there has at least been some precip and thunderstorms lately. Hot weather that won't necessarily encourage any on-shore movements of salmon or trout from the big Lake O is forecast thru next week. More and consistent precip wouldn't be a bad thing either to help recharge trib flows. We've heard a rumor here and there about a guy who heard that he thought he saw someone say that they might have seen a salmon around the piers, but this is normal for this time of the year. I'll never say never, because strange fish migrations do happen, but often times someone sees a carp roll and they might think its a salmon. I'd be more inclined to believe that not until theres a few cool days and nights strung together or coupled with the right on shore winds will we see any salmon scouting around the OOrchard Rivermouth. Lake trollers are finding scattered action that seems tougher then it was a month+ ago, and the closest we know that someone has trolled up a salmon is 80 - 100 FOW. Really that's not that far off shore. If precip levels stay down remember the OOrchard will have the best consistent flows thanks to the 24/7 supplemental Erie Canal water feed from upstream.

Aug 13, 2016...
They're coming! Not too long from now sometime in Sep we can expect Kings to kick off the trib season as they begin to scout around the OOrchard Rivermouth. Of course weather and water flows are the number one trigger for all salmonid upstream migrations, so with any cool downs and precip that might raise flows look for greater upstream movement. Come check out the early lower OOrchard and Rivermouth action where you can get in on some of the freshest and hardest fighting salmon of the year before the bigger upstream angling crowd hits. Closely on the heels of the Kings are the rest of the fall, winter and spring action for browns, rainbows/steelhead, Atlantics and cohos. During one cold water upwelling this summer there were already some browns hooked off local rivermouth piers.

It surely has been hot and dry this summer, but that may not be such a bad thing as the big Lake O resets after a couple of years of exceptional cold. So this summer's hot weather and last winter's warmer weather may add up to more "normal" temp set-ups and migration patterns for trout and salmon. I'm hopeful we'll see some "more normal" Rivermouth staging by salmon that seemed spotty the last couple years. Just recently too for Aug we are seeing some precip here on the WNY Lake O plains so that bodes well for trib flows. Hopefully we can continue a wet trend thru this fall, winter and spring. Big Lake O trollers have done pretty well this year boating some nice Kings. The numbers seem to be there so we should see good returns in the OOrchard this fall. All that good King action takes some pressure off steelhead and browns getting creeled so that also is a positive thing. This angler did better this past spring then 2015 for Lakeshore brown trout hook-ups and that usually translates to good fall trib action. Looking ahead for the future of the big Lake O fishery there are still some challenges and concerns over baitfish populations and more specifically select YOY alewife classes. This angler is part of of a NYS and Canadian LOC stakeholder group where the baitfish situation is being discussed so I'll continue to lobby for the best interests of tributary anglers as it relates to a continued thriving and world class Lake O salmonid fishery. Stay tuned!

Remember you still have to get out and fish... Come experience great fishing as it takes place instead of solely relying and waiting on internet reports. Anglers who find the best fishing often anticipate when the right conditions will come together. Internet bragging seems a lot less prevelant then it was a few years ago, and our reports tend to be even keeled - not reporting fish numbers great enough that they would be jumping in your waders - even if they were! Good water flows will be the biggest factor for trout and salmon migrations in the Oak Orchard River and in the area smaller tribs and pushing them upstream. Weather and the calendar is the biggest factor for angling pressure and bringing more fishermen out or keeping them indoors. There are always some exceptional fish caught in the trib season, just check out the pics below and in the archives. Come on out and get in on some trophy action this fall, winter and spring and add to the photo collection!

What does the Oak Orchard River, the Lakeshore and other WNY tribs offer? The chance to fish from your own two feet for trout and salmon you measure in pounds, not inches, for 7 - 9 months depending upon weather and water conditions. A trip to the Oak Orchard River and WNY to fish for World Class trout and salmon is still easily the best bargain in trophy fishing. The working man's big trout and salmon trip is still here, and it's not even a contest compared to the other exotic, far off angling destinations. We believe our web reports are the straightest poop by far about Oak Orchard and most WNY conditions. We are living and experiencing all the fishing action directly or thru trusted reports of other die hard anglers as it happens. So how do you know if trophy trout and salmon will be catchable upon your travels to the Oak Orchard and WNY area? All the best web info, bulletin boards, angler skill and top notch equipment cannot replace getting out there and actually fishing! The nuances of fish migrations is an inexact science and we cannot predict the future. Fish as soon as reasonable conditions allow instead of waiting for supposed better conditions that may or may not materialize. Be one of the lucky few that experiences good fishing as it takes place instead of hearing that famous quote, "you should have been here yesterday!"

Tight lines and smooth drags!
Licorice Man


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Latest Catch Photos

New name - same shop and lodge! Look for web upgrades and other changes coming for 2016.
On the first shot of Feb 2016 high water, Mike finds a good OOrchard steelhead with a slow and deep drift.
Do you need any more evidence that high and stained late winter OOrchard flows brings in some chrome?! Feb 2016.
The Licorice Man comes off the DL for a brief fly drifting stint and finds willing OOrchard biters like this pretty med chunker, one of a few others hooked but not landed in high and stained flows begin Mar 2016.



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